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New Video game law. (might be passed)

Postby JonesIndiana on Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:06 pm

Unfortunately for those of us who develop games, our right to express ourselves is hanging in the balance. If you’re not aware of it, today there is a California law sitting at the US Supreme Court which, if upheld, could completely change the game business. The law would make it illegal to sell games with content “inappropriate” for minors to anyone under 18. The law would ignore ESRB ratings and use completely arbitrary and vague definitions to describe what is allowed and isn’t allowed. Ultimately games would be treated as restricted substances – similar to cigarettes, alcohol and drugs.

It’s very important to note that no other form of media has to contend with this kind of restriction. It’s not illegal for those under 17 to attend a R rated movie, to read a Stephen King book or to listen to Howard Stern. But if the Supreme Court rules against the game industry, it could be illegal for someone under 18 to buy Resistance if the game is deemed inappropriate for minors under the new law. And as content creators, if there is a chance that our games will appear in an “Adults Only” section of game stores we will have to restrict what we create to avoid going out of business. To me such a situation is tantamount to government censorship.

If this law is upheld it could have a ripple effect across all other forms of media. Those who have sought to censor films, television, books, talk radio, and music will now have precedent to renew their fight against freedom of expression. In other words, this case is a very, very big deal.

What I’d love to see are more game news outlets focusing on big issues like this. Game sites can encourage gamers to take a stand and tell their representatives that games deserve the same protection as other art forms. We have the numbers on our side. We need to take advantage of that to make it crystal clear to our government that a law like this cannot stand.

And one article doesn’t do it. Those who are reporting the news should be treating this case with the gravity it deserves – giving us frequent updates, interviewing those involved, opining on the outcome and explaining the consequences of a decision that goes against gamers.

But the time is now. The US Supreme Court hears oral arguments beginning November 2nd and a decision will probably follow quickly. There are a few short weeks for gamers to be heard before it’s too late.

I challenge the news sites to carry the flag on this issue, to make it a key and ongoing story. Because ultimately whatever decision is made will affect them too.

Who’s going to rise to that challenge?

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Re: New Video game law. (might be passed)

Postby EmPeeKay on Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:08 pm

Sounds like a good law. I'll support it.
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Re: New Video game law. (might be passed)

Postby JonesIndiana on Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:10 pm

I hate you.

Edit: No sarcasm.
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Re: New Video game law. (might be passed)

Postby DarkFlame on Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:21 pm

The worst part about it is the loose definition of "violent." Does it mean any game where there is a weapon of any sort of any sort of punching or kicking, or what? In other words, will you have to be 18 to buy a Mario game? I honestly am halfway not worried about this because my mom buys all my games anyway (Still my money, but her credit card) and because I'm almost 18 (ish). Will I not be allowed to buy Minecraft? One point many people aren't thinking of is that if the law is passed, pirates will become an even bigger problem. Think about it, kid is not allowed to buy game, goes home and pirates game instead. It's free, it's the only way he's going to get it anyway, so why not? Another big problem with it is that it WILL (as the OP said) set a precedent that will tell other industries "Hey, it's not ok for kids to watch/read/play/DO anything with violence." Right now, the ESRB is a good enough system and it's doing its job. The new system will truly make no change but to make an even tighter grip. minors under 17 already can't buy a game rated M or up, that's a pretty decent rule. Especially seeing as these days ESRB is very trigger-happy with M ratings. ALL that the new law will do is make it so that other industries can do the same thing, which they are already in the same situation mostly. Movies have ratings too, they're pretty decent. 17 and up (or with parents...) only for R, 17 and up ONLY for NC-17. A pretty good system, but maybe a little under-sensitive and needing an intermediate between R and NC-17.
I think that the fact that the court is even slightly considering this trial proves how incompetent most of our leaders are. Don't like me saying that? Too bad, this is AMERICA, I have FREEDOM OF SPEECH. If this passes, who knows (I'm getting a little extreme here :P) maybe that will change too (Not that it hasn't already).

Anyway, tl;dr I hate the idea of the law but I'm not TOO worried.
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Re: New Video game law. (might be passed)

Postby JonesIndiana on Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:30 pm

Ted wrote: The law would make it illegal to sell games with content “inappropriate” for minors to anyone under 18. The law would ignore ESRB ratings and use completely arbitrary and vague definitions to describe what is allowed and isn’t allowed. Ultimately games would be treated as restricted substances – similar to cigarettes, alcohol and drugs.

Thats what they mean of "innappropriate".

Minecraft is basically "unknown" and doesn't have an ESRB rating.
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Re: New Video game law. (might be passed)

Postby GuitarMangler on Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:18 pm

Silly California. This would only increase piracy. Last time I checked stealing real things is a bigger deal than kids stealing stuff in grand theft auto..
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Re: New Video game law. (might be passed)

Postby JonesIndiana on Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:15 am

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Re: New Video game law. (might be passed)

Postby The_Three-Armed_Man on Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:40 pm

Ted Price wrote:The US Supreme Court hears oral arguments beginning November 2nd


1. It's in CALIFORNIA!
2. They start hearing arguments tomorrow. The law will NOT be passed tomorrow.
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Re: New Video game law. (might be passed)

Postby DarkFlame on Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:54 pm

The_Three-Armed_Man wrote:
Ted Price wrote:The US Supreme Court hears oral arguments beginning November 2nd


1. It's in CALIFORNIA!
2. They start hearing arguments tomorrow. The law will NOT be passed tomorrow.

1. I'm in CALIFORNIA!
2. The article said it itself, it will most likely go quickly.
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Re: New Video game law. (might be passed)

Postby The_Three-Armed_Man on Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:04 pm

I was referring to Jones.
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